The difference between the stand-alone Gandalf and the UCI-Gandalf on the Winboard Edition II is, that for future versions of Gandalf you can only update with the stand-alone Gandalf, NOT with the UCI-Gandalf of Winboard Edition II.īy the way, I have bought WChess 2000 and Zarkov 5 long ago. You get 4 engines in the package, 4 that you can`t get anywhere else (except Gandalf which could be also bought as stand alone engine, but then ONLY as winboard-version, which runs under Shredder 5 but not perfect because of the crippled Winboard-Adapter in Shredder. I hope this clarify some things, I don't think that it is a trick, of course no bad trick ! Gandalf works WITH ITS OWN BOOK then ! Same is with LambChop, Patzer & Capture, they use under Winboard and, if GUI-book is turned off, under Shredder there OWN book. Deep Shredder can ONLY be used when you have Shredder 5 - Gandalf can also be used under Winboard, when you use the UCI to Winboard - Adapter from Roland. After that they decided to put Gandalf UCI (ONLY UCI-compatible version) and Deep Shredder to the package as goodies. In the beginning it was planned with Capture, Patzer & LambChop. The problem is maybe a little bit the announcement of the new package. Capture, Patzer & LambChop are totally Winboard-compatible with the same. You can, and that's how the NEW engines on the Winboard Edition II works. Not the s a totally new engine-protocol, completely different from the MCS-engine-protocol (which needs DLLs - I am planning a MCS to Winboard adapter to use my Zarkov 5 and WChess 2000 under Winboard - I hope that I will have the time to implement MY book-system so that the engines can play with a book - if Roland allows me that, I plan the same modification to his UCI to Winboard - adapter) I'm somewhat confused about the difference, though I do know that they are What is the strenghts and weakness compared to the Winboard protcol? Currently You can support both UCI and winboard with the same executable, but thisĭoesn't seem to be true? So perhaps i misread?
Second question, I seem to recall reading the specifications of UCI is that Renamed to suit the "open" nature of the protocol or a totally different Mentioned somewhat infrequently in the past? Is it the same thing, just Some questions, Is UCI the same as MCS ? which was I can say that Tim has always had an "open ear" to improvement suggestions. I personally would have been more happy if it had come as a generalization of the winboard protocol. To name just one advantage: the multi-variant modus is supported. On the other hand, the UCI protocol had been cleanly designed from scratch. The new wb protocol version 2 has already cured some problems. But we are (essentially Tim) on the way, to better standardize it. IMHO, the wb protocol has historically grown new things had been added whenever necessary.
I think, at least Roland did so in Patzer. I don't know if the authors of the wbII edition have done this. But it's possible to implement support for both interface in the same executable. No, that's not part of the specification. So combining the UCI-wb adapter on the CD and the winboard adapter of MCS, you can for instance run UCI engines under MCS. Thanks.No, it's new and completely different.īut MCS has a winboard-adapter. What is the strenghts and weakness compared to the Winboard protcol? Currently I'm somewhat confused about the difference, though I do know that they are not the same. Second question, I seem to recall reading the specifications of UCI is that you can support both UCI and winboard with the same executable, but this doesn't seem to be true? So perhaps i misread? Some questions, Is UCI the same as MCS ? which was mentioned somewhat infrequently in the past? Is it the same thing, just renamed to suit the "open" nature of the protocol or a totally different thing? in the adapter by Roland Pfister which is on the CD it can also be downloaded from Frank's site. Thus, nobody will be hindered to implement it himself.ĪFIAK, there are currently 2 implementations:Ģ. The interface specification is open that's all. However, note that - thanks to the adapter on the CD - you can use all of the engines on the CD under winboard too. Perhaps one should have better called it "UCI-edition I". The CD is particularly interesting for users, which already own Shredder-5. I agree that the name Winboard Edition II is a bit misleading. Where can can it be downloaded? I don't mean the specification.I have never heard that DeepShredder is on the CD. Unrelated question: UCI interface is supposed to be free. The strongest engine will not work if you don't buy very expensive Shredder 5 also (CD-Check). The strongest engines (Deep Shredder and Gandalf) on the CD are NOT Winboard engines !! They are UCI engines, therefore you actually buy "UCI Edition XXX".Ģ.